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    29:14June 16, 2026

    He Built LLMs in 2016 and Still Trusts Gut Over AI

    What if the key to smarter business decisions isn't more data, but knowing when to trust yourself over the algorithm? In this episode, Sean sits down with Robert Indries, a builder and investor who was working with large language models back in 2016, long before AI became a boardroom buzzword. Robert shares why, despite his deep technical background, he still believes human intuition catches what

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    Sean Weisbrot
    Sean Weisbrot

    Serial entrepreneur · Networking expert · Podcast host

    Guest

    Robert Indries

    Builder and Investor

    Robert Indries is a builder and investor with a deep technical background who was working with large language models as early as 2016, well before AI entered mainstream business conversations. He specializes in company acquisitions and has developed a rigorous due diligence process comprising up to 170 questions, refined through years of hands-on experience buying and growing businesses. Robert is known for his nuanced view on the limits of AI in M&A, particularly his belief that human intuition remains essential for detecting deception during the acquisition process.

    Key Takeaways

    • 1When acquiring or investing in a company, develop a deep due diligence framework by cataloging every surprise you encounter post-deal and converting those into upfront questions for future transactions.
    • 2Treat due diligence like a massage therapist finding knots — start with a standard set of core questions, but whenever something doesn't add up, keep pressing deeper until you get clarity.
    • 3Sellers are inherently biased toward maximizing their multiple, so assume information will be incomplete or withheld and build your process around uncovering what isn't being said, not just verifying what is.
    • 4When market forces beyond your control threaten an acquired business, act quickly to pivot away from direct competition with better-resourced players rather than fighting a battle you cannot win on price or scale.

    Key Terms Defined

    New to some of the jargon in this episode? Here are plain-English definitions for the terms that came up.

    Networking
    The deliberate practice of building professional relationships that can lead to business opportunities, referrals, partnerships, or mentorship. In startup and business contexts, it often involves attending events or joining communities to meet influential people.
    7-Figure Business
    A business generating at least $1,000,000 (one million dollars) in annual revenue, referring to the number of digits in the dollar amount. Often used as a milestone benchmark in entrepreneurship communities.
    Financials
    A collective term for a company's financial statements and data, including revenue, expenses, budgets, and profit/loss reports. These documents are used by leaders to make key business decisions.
    Valuation
    The agreed-upon price of a company at a given funding round or acquisition — what investors and founders negotiate before a deal is struck.
    Private Equity (PE)
    Investment firms that buy established (often profitable) companies using a mix of their own capital and debt, then improve operations and sell for a profit.

    Chapters

    00:00-Getting Sellers to Tell You the Truth
    01:17-The 21-Question Due Diligence Massage Method
    02:38-Building a "Should Have Asked" Backlog
    04:41-Why AI Can't Catch a Liar in M&A
    07:07-Human Intuition Still Beats Generated Scripts
    09:06-Sean's Podcast Pitch That Turned a Rejection Around
    17:25-No Industry Is Safe From AI Disruption
    19:52-Protoss, Zerg, or Terran: Which Future Wins?
    26:53-Learning to Love as a Daily Skill

    Full Transcript

    Sean Weisbrot: The hardest part is, getting people to tell you the truth.

    Sean Weisbrot: Every single time, I'm like, damn, I wish I knew that before I got involved.

    Sean Weisbrot: AI does not know to look through lies.

    Sean Weisbrot: Yep. Don't tell me that there'll be accountants twenty years from now.

    Sean Weisbrot: I would say the Zerg would happen if Neuralink went.

    Sean Weisbrot: What is the hardest thing about acquiring companies with a goal to grow them?

    Sean Weisbrot: I think the the hardest part is, getting people to tell you the truth because at the end of the day, you know, their goal is to get the highest multiple

    Sean Weisbrot: possible, you know, most bang for their effort in the last few years.

    Sean Weisbrot: So they're obviously biased.

    Sean Weisbrot: We we are lucky sometimes.

    Sean Weisbrot: We we meet amazing individuals that are very upfront, very honest.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, they tell us how it is.

    Sean Weisbrot: But many people hide things or intentionally don't say certain details that then end up becoming headaches, you know, months after the acquisition.

    Sean Weisbrot: How do you find those before they become a problem?

    Sean Weisbrot: Well, the main way you do that is by,

    Sean Weisbrot: it's like when you I don't know if you've ever had a massage, and, you know, the

    Sean Weisbrot: massage therapist, you know, just works their thing on your back, and then they feel something.

    Sean Weisbrot: The moment they feel something, it's like they insist in that area.

    Sean Weisbrot: So we do pretty much the same.

    Sean Weisbrot: Like, we go through we have a standard of 21 questions, and, you know, we analyze stuff.

    Sean Weisbrot: And wherever we feel that something isn't adding up, we go deeper and then we go deeper.

    Sean Weisbrot: Just, you know, for the sake of, the audience, we have almost a 170,

    Sean Weisbrot: questions total, you know, that we go into.

    Sean Weisbrot: And for large companies, we ask all of them every time.

    Sean Weisbrot: For small companies, we just ask follow-up questions

    Sean Weisbrot: in the areas where we feel that we need to know more.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so the simplest answer

    Sean Weisbrot: I can give you is with experience.

    Sean Weisbrot: Because the moment you buy one or you buy a company and then

    Sean Weisbrot: you start running it, you realize, oh, I should have asked about this.

    Sean Weisbrot: Oh, I should have asked about that.

    Sean Weisbrot: So So because we've done it already

    Sean Weisbrot: many, many times, we already have, like, a backlog of I should have asked, and so we just ask that upfront.

    Sean Weisbrot: Yeah.

    Sean Weisbrot: That's happened to me a few times.

    Sean Weisbrot: I I haven't acquired a company, but I've invested in companies.

    Sean Weisbrot: And every single time, I'm like, damn, I wish I knew that before I got involved.

    Sean Weisbrot: And it was something that killed the company I just wasn't aware of or, you know.

    Sean Weisbrot: Yeah.

    Sean Weisbrot: So, it's

    Sean Weisbrot: extremely painful for anyone that wants to get involved with acquisitions or investments.

    Sean Weisbrot: Do you have a tolerance threshold for failure?

    Sean Weisbrot: Well, the way we buy, and manage typically is that, so far,

    Sean Weisbrot: in in no cases have we been poor at managing a company than the previous owners.

    Sean Weisbrot: We've at least matched the previous owner, right,

    Sean Weisbrot: in how well the company was run.

    Sean Weisbrot: Typically, we manage the company better.

    Sean Weisbrot: So in what can happen in terms of failure is the market can change.

    Sean Weisbrot: So let's say we invest in a company, that does whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: I don't know.

    Sean Weisbrot: I'm making stuff up. Maybe they do

    Sean Weisbrot: maybe they're a grocery store.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And then you buy that, and then, you know, Amazon just opens up next door or whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so you can't really do much after that.

    Sean Weisbrot: Like, you

    Sean Weisbrot: prices are better, customer service is better, etcetera, etcetera.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: So it then becomes very difficult

    Sean Weisbrot: to to sustain that business.

    Sean Weisbrot: So what you do, you need to, change and pivot

    Sean Weisbrot: into something else, to do something else that is not directly competing with someone that has a budget, you know, literally a million times bigger than yours.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so what you do, is

    Sean Weisbrot: you take the time to pivot.

    Sean Weisbrot: And if you pivot into something that you don't want to keep, then you sell.

    Sean Weisbrot: You don't sell something that's dying.

    Sean Weisbrot: I don't agree with that.

    Sean Weisbrot: You you should always sell something that has value.

    Sean Weisbrot: If it's dying, it has to be at significant discount.

    Sean Weisbrot: However, again, because so let's say you buy a company now, you buy it for 5,000,000,

    Sean Weisbrot: then you grow to 7 or 8,000,000, and then a black swan event happens, which basically makes your company less valuable.

    Sean Weisbrot: So let's say now you have to sell at the 30% discount.

    Sean Weisbrot: But because you raised the bar to, you know, $78,000,000,

    Sean Weisbrot: the 30% discount basically gives you all of your money back, right, one, two years later whenever that happens.

    Sean Weisbrot: So so far, we haven't lost our clients' money not even once,

    Sean Weisbrot: which is, you know, not easy, but, we always try to at least make their money back, and or our money, you know, because we co invest most of the time.

    Sean Weisbrot: How much are you relying on artificial intelligence to make your investment decisions?

    Sean Weisbrot: Very little, almost at all.

    Sean Weisbrot: Why is that?

    Sean Weisbrot: So people

    Sean Weisbrot: started talking about AI maybe a couple years ago.

    Sean Weisbrot: And, you know, people that I know, they know I'm an engineer, they know I'm very geeky, you know, they come to me and Robert, did you see what the AI can do and so on and so forth.

    Sean Weisbrot: I was like, guys, what are you talking about?

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: Number one, this isn't real AI. It's just generative.

    Sean Weisbrot: It you just feed it text and it spews out text based on what it knows.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And then number two, we've been building AI since, you know, 2016.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: So ten years ago, a decade ago, we were building it, like, actual AI smart, computer, let's say, we call them

    Sean Weisbrot: language models.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: So we would build these language models way, way before

    Sean Weisbrot: AI became cool.

    Sean Weisbrot: So AI became cool, let's say, in 2022, 2023, something like that.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, again,

    Sean Weisbrot: seven years before that, we're already building LLMs. And

    Sean Weisbrot: in that world where we were building artificial intelligence for banks within The US, for the US Athletics Corporation,

    Sean Weisbrot: for, you know, various different entities that really wanted to, you know, be innovative.

    Sean Weisbrot: I can tell you that real AI is nothing like chat GPT, right, or whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: So

    Sean Weisbrot: it feeds off of information that it has.

    Sean Weisbrot: And because it does that, it it can be only as helpful as the information it has.

    Sean Weisbrot: It can't be more helpful than the information.

    Sean Weisbrot: So,

    Sean Weisbrot: what we do so for example, let's say you ask it to write a script, an email script, right, for outreach, b to b, whatever your market is, you tell it what you need, and it writes a script. 90% of the time, AI generated scripts, underperform

    Sean Weisbrot: the scripts we have in our marketing agency.

    Sean Weisbrot: A marketing agency that has been, you know, conducting business since, you know, maybe twelve years ago.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: We have millions of data points on what scripts actually work and which scripts actually fail.

    Sean Weisbrot: So AI looks online, looks at blogs, looks at wherever it looks at, right, and then pulls scripts like what you should write and then gives you that as an option.

    Sean Weisbrot: But it's inferior to an actual agency that will not tell you its exact scripts and how it gets, you know,

    Sean Weisbrot: 60% open rate, you know, and a seven to 8% reply rate.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know?

    Sean Weisbrot: We have huge, let's say, advantages because of what we have internally.

    Sean Weisbrot: Likewise, with m and a, it's all deal by deal.

    Sean Weisbrot: You have to look at every deal.

    Sean Weisbrot: And, there are patterns, I will admit.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: However,

    Sean Weisbrot: AI does not know to look through lies yet.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: So people tell you stuff, and you you

    Sean Weisbrot: know it's a lie, but the AI will not know.

    Sean Weisbrot: It will not be able to figure out the lie.

    Sean Weisbrot: So right now, it can be helpful, but it it would take more to figure out

    Sean Weisbrot: if the AI is true or not in its assumption than it would take to just

    Sean Weisbrot: get to your own conclusions yourself.

    Sean Weisbrot: Again, within the world of m and a, I'm talking.

    Sean Weisbrot: It you can easily give it, you know, a a balance sheet or a p and l report, and it can give you a valuation based on comparables, blah blah.

    Sean Weisbrot: So that stuff is easy.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: But when you actually analyze a deal, at that part, maybe by the 2026,

    Sean Weisbrot: we'll have some AI or maybe in 2027, but right now, that's not the case yet.

    Sean Weisbrot: Quick break.

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    Sean Weisbrot: for my businesses and my clients.

    Sean Weisbrot: If you wanna build relationships that work for you before you need them,

    Sean Weisbrot: go get this guide right now.

    Sean Weisbrot: The link is in the show notes.

    Sean Weisbrot: Okay.

    Sean Weisbrot: Let's get back.

    Sean Weisbrot: I'm still discovering

    Sean Weisbrot: what AI can and can't do, and I recently built myself a podcast guest operating system where like, I've got one that I've built to manage the people that I interview,

    Sean Weisbrot: but I also built one to help me manage being a guest on other people's podcasts.

    Sean Weisbrot: And I wanted to automate the pitch part as well.

    Sean Weisbrot: So it it surfaces the, you know, potential podcast

    Sean Weisbrot: podcast that I should reach out to. And then if I, approve it on the spreadsheet, it'll enrich it with data and then draft a pitch and send it. So,

    Sean Weisbrot: originally, I was like, well, I have this this template pitch.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's kind of about me. It's it's very short.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's brief.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's something that would tell me if I'd wanna interview someone or not.

    Sean Weisbrot: So let me send that.

    Sean Weisbrot: And I sent it to a podcast that I quite liked, and their immediate response was, sorry, but we don't think you're a good fit.

    Sean Weisbrot: And I was like, okay.

    Sean Weisbrot: There's a problem here.

    Sean Weisbrot: My pitch turned them off.

    Sean Weisbrot: Let me start again.

    Sean Weisbrot: Let me actually read their description

    Sean Weisbrot: because the AI wasn't doing that.

    Sean Weisbrot: And then let me read the description, and let me write something that's from me, purely from me. A few sentences at most.

    Sean Weisbrot: And

    Sean Weisbrot: I did that because it's about productivity.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so I talked about in in my my new message to them how I,

    Sean Weisbrot: had a company that was really successful, and then I took money to start another business, and that business failed.

    Sean Weisbrot: And part of the reason was I was too busy being productive about the wrong things and pissing off my employees and all sorts of things.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so I wanted to share about that.

    Sean Weisbrot: Their response to that was,

    Sean Weisbrot: well, we're currently busy for the next few months.

    Sean Weisbrot: Reach out

    Sean Weisbrot: in September, and we can talk about it at that time.

    Sean Weisbrot: But right now, we're, like, really full.

    Sean Weisbrot: So it went from a flat rejection to, well, actually, that sounds interesting.

    Sean Weisbrot: And it's because I was willing to instead of saying, thank you for your time, going, no. I'm the problem.

    Sean Weisbrot: I trusted the AI to do something I shouldn't have trusted the AI to do something I shouldn't have trusted the shouldn't have trusted the AI to do.

    Sean Weisbrot: Exactly.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so Exactly.

    Sean Weisbrot: Now I've had to remove that part.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so I can still automate the surfacing,

    Sean Weisbrot: but I have to manually research.

    Sean Weisbrot: Do I actually like them?

    Sean Weisbrot: Do I feel good about what they do? And what is going to get them to wanna respond to me? Because

    Sean Weisbrot: when people pitch me, I don't really get,

    Sean Weisbrot: why this is a good fit for your audience some of the times.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's more like this is who they are and what they've accomplished, and sometimes it's exciting, and sometimes I don't really care.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so

    Sean Weisbrot: I guess I I was ignoring my own feeling about that and doing the same thing to them that other people do to me. So

    Sean Weisbrot: so, yeah, I'm I'm learning, and I think it's important for people to be able to understand

    Sean Weisbrot: what AI can and can't be trusted with.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so

    Sean Weisbrot: I think it's great that you're aware enough that the AI can handle calculations,

    Sean Weisbrot: but that it can't be trusted to surface lies yet.

    Sean Weisbrot: But I think you have the potential to train a model to understand lies based on the pitches you get for people to to work with you.

    Sean Weisbrot: So how can, despite AI's advances,

    Sean Weisbrot: we keep m and a human?

    Sean Weisbrot: Because at the end of the day, probably a lot of the people you're talking to are probably middle age or retirement age,

    Sean Weisbrot: I'm imagining, or they they've got kids that aren't interested in the business.

    Sean Weisbrot: I've heard this is a a huge problem right now, and so maybe there's a lot of opportunities, for those kinds of acquisitions

    Sean Weisbrot: where they've probably never used AI. They probably don't know how to use AI. They probably haven't implemented AI in their business.

    Sean Weisbrot: There's probably massive opportunity to automate.

    Sean Weisbrot: But at the end of the day,

    Sean Weisbrot: you have to have a human relationship with them to get the deal done.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: So how how do we keep m and a human as time goes on? Well, I think,

    Sean Weisbrot: this the the answer might surprise you, but I think that AI will become more human.

    Sean Weisbrot: Because if you look at cars and the way they are designed, they are not designed for optimal efficiency.

    Sean Weisbrot: They are designed for optimal comfort.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: Like, the you have the pedals where you, as a human, have legs.

    Sean Weisbrot: They have the gear shift is where you have your right hand, right, or left hand.

    Sean Weisbrot: Depends.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: The steering wheel is right here.

    Sean Weisbrot: The you know, everything is designed for you.

    Sean Weisbrot: And you can look at the chair, look at the table, look at everything

    Sean Weisbrot: that you use is designed for you, the headphones, everything.

    Sean Weisbrot: So we don't design things that are optimal.

    Sean Weisbrot: We design things that are optimal for us from our perspective.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And so we will slowly but surely create AI that is extraordinary for us. So

    Sean Weisbrot: in you know, give it, you know, ten, twenty years, whatever, you'll have a robot around your house, you know, that cleans

    Sean Weisbrot: and feels like they're a human, you know, like Terminator style.

    Sean Weisbrot: Like, you won't be able to tell, you know, that be because you will feel more comfortable.

    Sean Weisbrot: You're not gonna look at the, you know,

    Sean Weisbrot: stainless steel metal walking around the house, you know, looking all, incredibly,

    Sean Weisbrot: fierce, you know, and it can kill you in any moment, you know, type of deal, and then they are just picking up, you know, dirt from the ground.

    Sean Weisbrot: Like, you're not gonna do that.

    Sean Weisbrot: They're gonna have the exact body

    Sean Weisbrot: that you wish for your butler or maid or whatever to have.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And that's that's gonna be it. Not because that's optimal,

    Sean Weisbrot: but because that's what we are comfortable with.

    Sean Weisbrot: So the exact same thing will happen with AI. Give it maybe one to two years and, digitally, I will be able to create

    Sean Weisbrot: a digital avatar of myself that looks exact like me, sounds exact like me. You will not be able to tell.

    Sean Weisbrot: I could have this podcast delegated two years from now.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And you can delegate yourself

    Sean Weisbrot: on the podcast.

    Sean Weisbrot: Oh, I wanna have, you know, 10 podcasts today, but you know what?

    Sean Weisbrot: I don't feel like waking up today.

    Sean Weisbrot: No problem.

    Sean Weisbrot: The AI will handle it. Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And so

    Sean Weisbrot: I'm not saying that's a good future.

    Sean Weisbrot: I'm just saying it is what is going to happen.

    Sean Weisbrot: Like, don't tell me, you know, video AI and voice AI and all of these virtual versions of AI will not evolve so much that they will be indistinguishable from us. So

    Sean Weisbrot: you won't care.

    Sean Weisbrot: That's my answer.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: Two, three, four, five years from now, AI will just like you use a smartphone now, and twenty years ago, smartphones weren't a thing, but now everyone uses one.

    Sean Weisbrot: Twenty years from now, everyone will be using AI and no one will care.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: You you won't

    Sean Weisbrot: you won't even think, like, those conversations of what should we eat tonight won't happen.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, your maid already ordered, you know, pasta because they know that's what you will crave tonight because, you know, in the morning, you ate I don't know what and that by default will give you a craving

    Sean Weisbrot: for something else.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: Those things will already be figured out

    Sean Weisbrot: by the AI, and the only reason we're building AI is to have better lives for ourselves.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's very selfish.

    Sean Weisbrot: Everything we do is selfish for for humanity.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, the cars, the everything is just so we have a better life.

    Sean Weisbrot: The the the poorest person,

    Sean Weisbrot: you know, or some of the poorest people in The US right now

    Sean Weisbrot: live better than the richest kings from a couple hundred years ago.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: They have access to more stuff,

    Sean Weisbrot: you know, like, to books, to knowledge, to foods, to shout, to whatever,

    Sean Weisbrot: to warmth, you know, to to comfortable beds and so on. Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And the richest kings from two hundred years ago, they they didn't have heating.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, they they couldn't eat in the winter, just maybe grains because that's the only thing they had left over, you know, if they had any, etcetera, etcetera.

    Sean Weisbrot: So maybe 200, no. But 500 ago, definitely.

    Sean Weisbrot: Two Two hundred years ago, you already had the the rev the agricultural revolution.

    Sean Weisbrot: But, my point is every decade or so, especially now, the the amount of comfort is insane that that,

    Sean Weisbrot: we get, and AI is just part of that comfort.

    Sean Weisbrot: Is this part of the thesis that you execute on with the companies you're acquiring?

    Sean Weisbrot: Or

    Sean Weisbrot: because I I've spoken to a private equity person who

    Sean Weisbrot: only invests in businesses that AI won't touch.

    Sean Weisbrot: Yep. So

    Sean Weisbrot: businesses that AI won't touch, some someone that says that is someone that's not an engineer.

    Sean Weisbrot: Any engineer will tell you that all industries will change 100%. You why would I put in jeopardy

    Sean Weisbrot: the lives of 100 construction workers when a when a a robot can do that?

    Sean Weisbrot: And they it it doesn't need time off.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's not gonna ask for a salary.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's not gonna eat.

    Sean Weisbrot: It just needs electricity.

    Sean Weisbrot: So I literally just power up. I put I put in some high-tech.

    Sean Weisbrot: Imagine, you know, twenty years from now, super high-tech, solar panels,

    Sean Weisbrot: you know, that power my entire workforce of 20 robots, and they'll build the house or the building, whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: Yeah.

    Sean Weisbrot: And and by the way, they'll do it perfectly.

    Sean Weisbrot: No mistakes.

    Sean Weisbrot: Every

    Sean Weisbrot: cube, every electrical wiring, everything will be done perfectly.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: They will not, you know, jeopardize your material.

    Sean Weisbrot: It was gonna actually be more cost effective.

    Sean Weisbrot: I don't tell me there'll be people driving buses twenty years from now because that's just false.

    Sean Weisbrot: There won't be. You know, the bus will drive itself.

    Sean Weisbrot: Don't tell me that there'll be accountants twenty years from now.

    Sean Weisbrot: Why would you have an accountant when it's just math?

    Sean Weisbrot: Sincerely, like, what what was the point?

    Sean Weisbrot: Why would you have a lawyer

    Sean Weisbrot: where where all laws are very clear?

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, they're very cut and dry.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: You'll have, you know, AI just building the most amazing contract and the AI negotiating with other AI, you know, making compromises

    Sean Weisbrot: on each side, you know, just so that they can, you know, reach settlement or whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: When you will sue someone twenty years from now, you will just tell the AI to sue them.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And then, you know, a few days later, you'll just either get money or you realize you lost the lawsuit and you'll have to, you know, give them money or whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know?

    Sean Weisbrot: All industries will change.

    Sean Weisbrot: There isn't a single industry that won't change.

    Sean Weisbrot: Why would you have cleaning lasers?

    Sean Weisbrot: Why would you have anything that you have today, you know, if AI can do it, in the future?

    Sean Weisbrot: The only difference is that they don't see the future.

    Sean Weisbrot: They don't see enough in advance.

    Sean Weisbrot: So they say, well, in the next five to ten years, you'll still use electricians.

    Sean Weisbrot: Okay.

    Sean Weisbrot: Fine.

    Sean Weisbrot: You will.

    Sean Weisbrot: But twenty years from now, you won't. Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: So just because it's valid for ten years doesn't mean it will be valid in twenty.

    Sean Weisbrot: Do you have a utilitarian view or,

    Sean Weisbrot: like, a positive view of the future for this, or do you think this is a a negative thing?

    Sean Weisbrot: The the the only problem of humanity is, is the ego.

    Sean Weisbrot: We have ego.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: If you look at, you know, certain presidents that I'm not going to name, you know, today that get elected,

    Sean Weisbrot: and you look at, you know, other individuals,

    Sean Weisbrot: and how they how they deal with stuff.

    Sean Weisbrot: Ego really is the enemy.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, there's a book on it, and that's the title.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, ego is the enemy.

    Sean Weisbrot: But

    Sean Weisbrot: if if we get to a level of consciousness as as a society where we somehow manage to put love, above everything else, then we will be fine.

    Sean Weisbrot: If we don't manage to do that, then, you know, psychopath will still be a thing because psychopaths is like the mental illness, right, that you have, and you can

    Sean Weisbrot: it's literally I'm sure they'll figure out what parts of the brain make you be a psycho.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And so if they will be able if we will be able to remove that gene or or that defect from humanity, because I really think it's like a defect.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: Why wouldn't we just, you know, be good and kind to one another?

    Sean Weisbrot: I could tell you why.

    Sean Weisbrot: So The the people that run the biggest companies in the world are have psychopathic tendencies.

    Sean Weisbrot: Yes. Yes. I know.

    Sean Weisbrot: But but you don't need to run the biggest companies in the world.

    Sean Weisbrot: You you don't need that.

    Sean Weisbrot: Like, so,

    Sean Weisbrot: have you ever played games, you know, like StarCraft, for example?

    Sean Weisbrot: Yeah.

    Sean Weisbrot: I've played Counter Strike.

    Sean Weisbrot: Counter Strike.

    Sean Weisbrot: Yeah.

    Sean Weisbrot: So, so there's,

    Sean Weisbrot: there's a game called StarCraft.

    Sean Weisbrot: In StarCraft, you have three,

    Sean Weisbrot: let's say, main entities.

    Sean Weisbrot: You have the Terrans, obviously, us. And you have the Protoss, which is basically a very highly evolved species, and then you have the Zerg.

    Sean Weisbrot: So the Terran,

    Sean Weisbrot: and fast forward, you know, five hundred years into the future, you know, whatever, you know, technology and so on and so forth, AI, etcetera.

    Sean Weisbrot: So the Terrans are basically

    Sean Weisbrot: incredibly corrupt.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's a dominion.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's called the Terran dominion.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: It's,

    Sean Weisbrot: it's a form of democracy, but it's actually, you know, closer to Russia at peace, let's say.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, you can't really say, you know, whatever propaganda, etcetera.

    Sean Weisbrot: So people feel okay, but the reality is that the government controls everything.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And so

    Sean Weisbrot: that's that's the the the humans.

    Sean Weisbrot: Then you have the Zerg.

    Sean Weisbrot: They're like,

    Sean Weisbrot: they're like insects of highly evolved, whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: They're they're like ants.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know?

    Sean Weisbrot: The the ultimate form of what's what's that populism

    Sean Weisbrot: or or whatever where, you know, everyone has one goal and this is what like, it's like no one's unhappy

    Sean Weisbrot: because I understand I was born to do this and you were born to do that and, you know, and everyone just has one brain they share and, you know, they they take everything for.

    Sean Weisbrot: So that's a a perfectly reasonable,

    Sean Weisbrot: outcome.

    Sean Weisbrot: And then you have the protos.

    Sean Weisbrot: The protos, who are my favorite,

    Sean Weisbrot: they're humanoid in nature.

    Sean Weisbrot: Like, that's how they look.

    Sean Weisbrot: They look like us.

    Sean Weisbrot: But the difference is that they are all connected,

    Sean Weisbrot: through A hive mind.

    Sean Weisbrot: I can't remember how it's like a hive mind, but it's like, telepathy.

    Sean Weisbrot: They they all share a brain.

    Sean Weisbrot: They all share thoughts.

    Sean Weisbrot: You cannot lie as a protoss to one another because I can hear your thoughts even if you're on the other side of the galaxy.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: I cannot hear your thoughts and so on. And so that leads

    Sean Weisbrot: to the highest form of civilization, at least the way I see it. Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: Because then there is no corruption.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know?

    Sean Weisbrot: There there are no negative thoughts.

    Sean Weisbrot: There's just,

    Sean Weisbrot: you know, how can we do good together?

    Sean Weisbrot: You know, some people will naturally be gifted towards being warriors.

    Sean Weisbrot: Some people will naturally be gifted to be scientists or researchers.

    Sean Weisbrot: Other people will be teachers in schools or whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And so you have those talents, you know, or or as a society and, you know, everyone has the role based on, you know, what they're naturally gifted to do, and they that will make them happy, you know.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so

    Sean Weisbrot: but but they can choose, you know, to do whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: So you have freedom of of choice and so on. So that's the ultimate positive form.

    Sean Weisbrot: The ultimate negative form is, you know, what you have on the terrains where psychopathic people, you know,

    Sean Weisbrot: rule the world, basically, you know, and it's a it's a not,

    Sean Weisbrot: totalitarian regime, you know, and you feel you have some rights, but the reality is you have none, you know, just because you're not interesting enough to the government, you know, they leave you alone, etcetera.

    Sean Weisbrot: So

    Sean Weisbrot: though those two things can both happen.

    Sean Weisbrot: I don't know which one will happen.

    Sean Weisbrot: I can be hopeful, you know, and optimistic.

    Sean Weisbrot: I I hope we go more towards the protocol.

    Sean Weisbrot: I would say the Zerg would happen if Neuralink wins.

    Sean Weisbrot: Yeah.

    Sean Weisbrot: The the thing is that,

    Sean Weisbrot: you would have to have a commanding chief.

    Sean Weisbrot: Elon Musk, obviously.

    Sean Weisbrot: So so, Elon Musk will die,

    Sean Weisbrot: probably.

    Sean Weisbrot: And I'm not not sure because, you know, it's just he's relatively old.

    Sean Weisbrot: You and I might not die because we're, like, in our thirties, so

    Sean Weisbrot: we will evolve enough, you know, so that you can live to be a few 100 years old.

    Sean Weisbrot: And then if you live to be a few 100 years old, we might invent something, you know, that, makes you basically live forever.

    Sean Weisbrot: But I don't know if Elon Musk will get that.

    Sean Weisbrot: I think he's, like, 60 something.

    Sean Weisbrot: Maybe maybe he he might he he might, live forever as well.

    Sean Weisbrot: But, the the point is that,

    Sean Weisbrot: he he is not all knowing.

    Sean Weisbrot: He makes mistakes,

    Sean Weisbrot: probably makes a lot of them.

    Sean Weisbrot: Yeah.

    Sean Weisbrot: I don't know because, I I don't know the guy too much, but I I do know that someone

    Sean Weisbrot: in insulting people outright is not the wisest

    Sean Weisbrot: of them all.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: It's just that can't be true.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: So the the reality

    Sean Weisbrot: is that I don't know that there are people that would be able

    Sean Weisbrot: to to run with wisdom.

    Sean Weisbrot: I don't know if AI can.

    Sean Weisbrot: AI probably can.

    Sean Weisbrot: I've seen some very grim

    Sean Weisbrot: movies about the future, you know, that are together with AI. One of them is upgrade.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's

    Sean Weisbrot: I haven't slept well for three days after I saw I've seen that.

    Sean Weisbrot: But, it's it was it was crazy.

    Sean Weisbrot: I I recommend you see it. It's it's a perspective of the future that's not so bright with AI.

    Sean Weisbrot: What's the most important thing you've learned in your life so far?

    Sean Weisbrot: I think it's probably to, you know, to be loving, towards everyone and towards myself.

    Sean Weisbrot: Not easy all the time because you you have your own trauma that you deal with and, you know, your your own shortcomings.

    Sean Weisbrot: I see the thing that affects,

    Sean Weisbrot: us most or at least in my case, it's, tiredness.

    Sean Weisbrot: You know?

    Sean Weisbrot: You wanna do so many things and, you know, you wanna be a good father and a good husband and a good entrepreneur and, and someone that takes care of their health and someone that talks to their mother and father, you know, and spends time with them and blah blah blah.

    Sean Weisbrot: And their list is never ending, you know, of the the things that you wanna do at the same time.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so you you make compromises or you strategize.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: And so you get to a point where you're tired,

    Sean Weisbrot: and you're less loving, you know, because you're tired.

    Sean Weisbrot: It does come naturally at one point.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's like you're you're just

    Sean Weisbrot: you you don't insult people or you're not that angry or whatever.

    Sean Weisbrot: But I think that if

    Sean Weisbrot: if humans learn to love themselves and others more and and, like, make it not like a woo woo thing, like, add conscious effort towards becoming

    Sean Weisbrot: better.

    Sean Weisbrot: Just like you would add conscious effort, let's say, if you go to the gym and you want bigger muscles, it's like a conscious dedicated effort.

    Sean Weisbrot: Or let's say you wanna learn a language or you wanna learn piano.

    Sean Weisbrot: It's like a skill.

    Sean Weisbrot: So learning to love is a skill.

    Sean Weisbrot: And so people, if we would dedicate

    Sean Weisbrot: time daily to reflect and to, you know, become more loving,

    Sean Weisbrot: if everyone would do it. Even even psychopathic people, if they would realize, like, that it's a priority, and if if they would learn,

    Sean Weisbrot: their ego would make them want to become, you know, the most loving person on the planet to to some extent.

    Sean Weisbrot: Right?

    Sean Weisbrot: So it would work in their favor to, to a big, a big regard.

    Sean Weisbrot: And that's that's what I think is the thing I've learned.

    Sean Weisbrot: That's, like, the most important thing I've learned so far.

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