How I Cloned Myself With AI (A Step-by-Step Guide)

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: When it comes to our client support, if someone has a question, of course, he or she expects that, uh, to get an answer. Maybe not immediately, but in some short time. But because of this, um, time shifts, you know, different time zones and, and also because, uh, consultant there, of course they're busy, they have some pre-scheduled things. They, they can do it, but currently our expectations, if we, for example, if. As customers, we deal with some online services. Of course, we expect, uh, to get, um, answers to our questions immediately. And, and this particular service allows that. So I believe, uh, this kind of services, this kind of artificial consultants, they will change, uh, the way how we deal with our clients.

Sean Weisbrot: Welcome back to another episode of the We Lift to Build podcast. I'm here today. With Alexander tki, hopefully I didn't butcher your name. He is the founder and CEO of TKI, Inc. A firm that helps business owners to build management systems and run efficient strategies. They have over 250 full-time employees and branches across the us, Taiwan, and Ukraine. And I've worked with over a thousand companies since 2008. I originally heard about Alexander when I was, uh, publishing on helper reporter asking to talk with entrepreneurs who are interested in, or are implementing AI in their businesses right now. What I found really interesting about his situation is that he has found some tools that have allowed him to not only clone his voice, but also create a digital avatar of himself. So that he can have a chat bot that allows people to ask him questions and to create content that he can put on social media. It's very interesting. So we'll be talking about, uh, leaders and the digitalization of their knowledge and their experience and creation of content among other things. So thank you for taking the time to talk with me. I appreciate it. Why don't you tell everyone a little bit more about yourself and then we'll go from there,

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: sir. Really good to be here, and I was born in. Russia in Siberia. I'm Ukrainian citizen. I, um, I moved to the United States seven years ago to open my New York branch and, uh, it was the right move. And I really love this country, this people and this entrepreneurial spirit. Now we have dozens of clients in the United States and, um. About two and more, hundreds or more. And in all other countries in the world, more than 50 countries. How did you get involved in this Initially? I, I ran manufacturing companies back in Ukraine, uh, that were three manufacturing companies. I founded them. Uh, I grew them to some certain point, and I was pretty lucky before the crisis of 2007. I sold them. And, uh, because I just, you know, I just realized one thing that, uh, in all my businesses I did, uh, some consulting work. Uh, I was a consultant because how I created these manufacturing companies. I just approached their people who had, my partners, who had ideas. They were deeply involved in this. Uh, some manufacturing process, but they were not, um, and successful managers, uh, they didn't know how to deal with marketing and sales. They didn't know how to organize people. And, uh, so. I just approached them and I became, um, a partner for them and I build the businesses. So, and, and at some certain point I just realized that I can start the mass production, mass production, or the same service. I don't need to become a partner to someone. I just can help people with my experience and knowledge. And I started with Soki Incorporated in Ukraine in 2008. And since then, we already have done more than 1000 consulting projects around the world. And, um, I, I found out that my approach, my program, um, pretty efficient. So this is why it's now it's popular even in the United States.

Sean Weisbrot: That must have been, I guess in your head, a, a year after you sold those manufacturing companies, like, wow, I can't believe I sold them. With that kind of timing, that now the world's kind of falling apart and you know, imagine what you would've been stuck with if you had kept with it.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Yeah, absolutely. I would be trapped.

Sean Weisbrot: Was there something that said, I need to sell this right now? Was the like, did any like trigger go off in your head? Did you see something in the world? Like how, how did you get this inkling that you needed to sell?

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: So I was lucky. Because their manufacturing company will located in Europe. And you know, there is some particular delay between things which happen in the United States and, and when it comes to this real estate or nightmare, this crisis, it started in the United States in months. It came to Europe, uh, western Europe, um, and, and only in months it came to Eastern Europe. So, and most of the people, they don't care about what happens in the United States and they think, okay, just one country in the world, they don't realize that this country is their, that country. And, uh, it realizes all the, all the world. And I just, I just knew it and understand it. Um, and so I just. I knew that what happens to the United States and I realized, okay, uh, I, it's, it's, it's not a challenge really to predict that in probably six, seven months and it'll come to our end. So I was fast enough. When did you start playing with ai? One of our, my challenges is, uh, how to create training content and Spanish gin. English, uh, Russian and some other languages, uh, because, um, it's ca it's important for my business. And so I believe it was probably one or two years ago when we started to look at different tools, which helped to generate voice to my voice or to generate some, something meaningful. And um, so this is the first time when we started to look at. And, uh, also almost at the same time, about a year ago, two years ago, that, um. The first, um, like video generation, uh, tools appeared, uh, lipsy in something, but it was awful. Just, you know, it's, it's really weird when you take, for example, um, short video in English and you can, and you try to synchronize lips, um, in Chinese. It looks just awful. But anyway, it was first tries, uh, two years ago and yeah, since two years ago we started to look at this.

Sean Weisbrot: Despite how awful the sinking is, China tries really hard to do it anyways. They actually have a history of making movies in Hong Kong where they use Cantonese and then you bring it into the mainland and they dub it in Chinese in Mandarin. It looks awful. So they, they are no stranger to that. Sometimes they try to do it with Western movies as well, where they'll try to dub in Mandarin and it just doesn't look good

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: when it comes to li limping, uh, technology. Uh, yes you can sing lips, but you can synchronize our gestures, emotions, you know, body movements and, uh, all the rest. And, and this is why it looks so terrible. Have you heard of this tool called Metahuman from Unreal? Yes, absolutely. For me, for example, I need to produce like hours and hours of content every month. And um, it's too expensive in and too complicated currently, but probably in the nearest future it'll change.

Sean Weisbrot: I first heard about Metahuman about two weeks ago, be beginning of May, and. I saw it and it was incredible how. It took in the facial movements, the gestures, and the vocals of someone live in front of the audience and then processed it and within a minute was capable of re-skinning that person with some metahuman. Um, or reusing the voice to say something different. It was incredible. It's, I haven't seen anything like it. Um, so I'm sure it's gonna be something very interesting for, for you and for me, and any content creator really. Um, but obvious you said it's, it's probably not in the realm of feasibility financially for most people right now. There's a few other tools that we talked about in our intro call that I want to mention here and see if you had a chance to use. One of them is called Coach Vox. Did you get a chance to look at that one?

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Uh, yes. I look at them and also, um, I sent them, uh, an email, email and now I am on their wait list and they promised to start the service on June 7th. So, uh, it looks very promising by the way, because, uh, you need to fill this coach thing with, uh, q and days and, uh, they promise that this thing will be able to answer some questions, which is great. Really, it's exactly what I'm looking for because, uh, for. For the years, um, I recorded audio and video and articles, and it's about 3000 questions q and days from my clients. So I have enough, uh, content to feed to this coach and, uh, let's say, and I, I believe in this kind of approach because, you know, um. I said right now we deal with more than 300 companies from around the world. And the problem is, um, I have about 60 consultants at my company full-time. But, um, when it comes to our client support, if someone has a question, of course, he or she expects that, uh, to get an answer, maybe not immediately, but in some short time. But because of this, um, time shifts, you know, different time zones and, and also because, uh, consultant there, of course they're busy. They have some pre-scheduled things, they, they can do it. But currently our expectations, if we, for example, if we as customers, we deal with some online services. Of course, we expect, uh, to get, um, answers to our questions immediately. And, and this particular service allows that. So I believe, uh, this kind of services, this kind of artificial consultants, they will change, uh, the way how we deal with our clients and it, it will bring us to the next level. It's because it's about speed, it's about, and also there, there's one more thing. I teach, uh, a lot of consultants and, uh, what I see, unfortunately, unfortunately, they're human beings, so, and they're creative, so they want to add, sometimes they just want to add something, something personal, something smart. Um, they think it's smart, but, uh, and, and unfortunately, sometimes they, they, they just misguide our clients. Because there are some very simple, particular answers to our client's questions, but, uh, if we deal with human beings, we all are creative and we want want to enhance, we want to add something new. So, and I believe in this case, um, when it comes to some simple questions, this artificial intelligence thing will be much more efficient.

Sean Weisbrot: I agree. So I wanna just kind of briefly go through what Coach Fox is for people. Um, maybe I'll have it on the screen during the, uh, when I'm talking about it, uh, because I am trying to make my episodes more engaging. Um, so. Basically with Coach Vox, you are supposed to train it on your content, and then it gets to know your tone, your style, your vocabulary, and as well as the, uh, the hard data and the questions that you might have answers to, things like that. And then it kind of builds up like a chat bot for people to then ask you questions. So it's really good potentially for, as you said, dealing with clients, but also you can use it internally with your employees. However, there are other tools that can be used, uh, to work with your employees knowledge base tools. One of them is called Prag, uh, Pragma, P-R-A-G-M-A. I'll have the links for all of these in the show notes. Um. One of them is task wise ai. Uh, I saw that one yesterday as well. I haven't really had a chance to go through all of them, but I am spending so much time learning about all the different tools that are related to business because I wanna be able to share them, uh, not only with the guests, but also with the audience, and I plan on making additional content related to that. So right now with Coach Vox, uh, they have this like do it yourself plan, which is 99 a month, and then they've got this $3,000 plan where they do it with you. Um. Which one did you tell him you were interested in?

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Uh, I started with $99 per month because I wanted to look at how it works, but, uh, if I see that it can help us, of course I will buy this $3,000 plan because they promise to teach us how to deal with this thing.

Sean Weisbrot: One of the problems I have is I'm not terribly technical, and a lot of the things that I've found around automation integration and AI are not intuitive for a non-technical person. And so like if, like if you tell me, oh, you can train your ai, my brain goes. Help, right? Because I'm like, oh yeah, I have to train it. How am I supposed to train it? Now? I have seen some AI tools where you literally just copy and paste like a YouTube URL and it'll ingest everything and, and then it'll make a bot for you. But the problem I found with some of those tools, and there's a lot of tools like that, is that you can't. Train it in case it ingests information and doesn't get it correct. And sometimes it doesn't get it correct. Um, have you tried any tools like that, ones that you've had problems with or ones that just weren't intuitive for you? Oh my

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: God. You know, my employees, they have troubles with charge GPT. Because like yesterday I got some piece of, uh, work that copyright, um, they, they wrote some script for our Australian video and I had a lot of questions and I found out they don't know how to write a, let's say, precise and efficient prompt for chat. GPT. They need to be trained on this matter. So even, even when it comes to this very simple tool, we need to be trained, we need to get some information, how to do this, how to do this, uh, you know, do it step by step. And I understand that very well because my, uh, business accelerator is created exactly this way. There is a small piece of, uh, training, video information and say after you need to do some particular steps, and you have a coach who looks at that and say, okay, you need to do this another way. Okay, change this and that. You get the result and you get another piece of information and, and et cetera. So. And of course we need some training materials. And, and by the way, about the service, I really appreciate the approach because currently it's not enough just to give people a piece of software or some kind of service. You also need to teach them how to use it because every tool or we use became pretty complicated. You know, look what happens with, uh, I don't know, Google spreadsheets. People don't know how to use it. Probably 1% of all the users, they use formulas and, uh, little bit more complicated stuff. Uh, instead of just putting text into this sales, you know.

Sean Weisbrot: So you were saying you liked how Coach Vox was offering this additional service because you wanted to be trained in how to use it. Cool. Yeah, I saw it and I thought it was very interesting. There's another one that I saw that, it's called Wisdom ai.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: I went through that, uh, because I, I, I just on that page, I found one familiar face and I tried to communicate to this, uh, to this person because I know him. Uh, he is a huge arm. Influencer, and he's an expert when it comes to marketing, digital marketing funnels. Russell Branson, oh my God, I really, really, uh, respect this guy. And, uh, um, so I, I choose this, uh, Russell Branson thing and I started to ask questions about funnels, of course, because I know this guy, he is the best probably expert in the world when it comes to funnels. And challenges as a part of the funnel digital marketing funnel. And, but unfortunately, answers were absolutely stupid and irrelevant. And, and this is why I skipped this series. I don't know how it works. I didn't dig deeper. Probably I did something wrong, but I, I wasn't, uh. Impressed by the answers. Even I know this guy, and even I know his area of expertise, and I ask the question. Which really correspond to his area of expertise.

Sean Weisbrot: How did you think of the experience, though? Is it a tool that you would want to be a provider for? Do you think there's value in anyone from the audience to build a pro, a profile here and build a chatbot on this application?

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: I. I don't know, probably it was just a bad experience. Probably I needed to try something else, someone else, uh, just to talk to. But, um, for me, I, I didn't find that it, the service is workable, uh, solution.

Sean Weisbrot: So I. That's fair. I haven't had a chance to go deep into Wisdom AI yet myself. I've spent a little bit more time on Coach Fox. I do need to spend more time on it just because I think it could be quite valuable. Um, I wanna talk a little bit more about what you're currently using to create your content and automate your, your chat and knowledge base for your employees and your team, uh, and to your clients. Um, so tell me a little bit more about that, uh, that application stack.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: So the first one to deal with tax is charge GPT. Of course, you know, everybody does that. So I, I, I don't want to talk about it anymore because there, there are a lot of information about that. Are you using 3.5 or four? Yes, of course. We use four as first one. And you know, one interesting thing most of the people don't know about that, um, how I use it, for example, or how my employees, they use it. For example, they can record. Um, they can take a text in Russian or Chinese or some, you know, other language, put it on Chad GPT and ask him to ask it to, uh, write a text in English for American born and raised people and, uh, and et cetera, et cetera. So it translates it. On the fly and creates this text. So it also, but, uh, it doesn't translate back, but it translate from foreign languages to English and does it pretty good. Better than most of, uh, you know, human translators. And so this is the first one. Uh, second, we use, um, 11 laps. Uh, and we compared a lot of similar services, uh, for voice generation because, uh, there are some, like basic services like Google, Amazon and everything. They all have this text to speech things, but 11 labs, uh, creates really very. They're a real sound, it sounds like a human being. And also 11 Labs allows you to clone your voice. You just upload like, I don't know, 10 minutes of your speech and, uh, generates, uh, clone of your voice. And after that you can, you can speak, you know, Spanish. Polish, Chinese, English, whatever you want. Um, so we use it for voice generation and our, uh, framework is we create text, uh, using chart GPT, uh, most of the time based on some, um. Prerecording articles q and a. So we use JGPT just for copywriting. After that, we use this text, uh, with Lemon Labs to generate audio track, like podcast or something. And after we use, Hey Jen. Hey. I believe it's Hey Jane Ai, uh, the name of the stain Hagen? Yes. Hagen ai. To create video. So I prerecorded, uh, my avatar. Exactly. It looks exactly like this one in this studio. I recorded a short video. It takes probably about 10, 20 minutes, upload it to Hey Gen. And, uh, now, uh, my. Teammates, my guys, my experts, they use this generated by my voice, clone voice, uh, on 11 labs, soundtracks. They put on this, Hey, gen, and they generate videos for social media, for training content and everything. So, and, and all this process there is the very important point for me. I have to check the text. So, because now text is everything.

Sean Weisbrot: Right? So how has that changed, I guess? How have these tools changed the way your social media team works?

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Uh, and because, you know, previously it was a very pretty long process. First we needed to choose some topics and after I needed to record my ideas on each of them, and there was a copywriter who wrote scripts for, for example, reels. And after they send it to me and I record by the script some video I sent to post-production, post-production, cut it into pieces and, you know, and someone also uploads on my Instagram channel. Now everything is absolutely different. So now it's, uh, I, I can generate these real scripts like. With Chad GPT, almost instantly, I just type the main ideas what I want to deliver and I ask Chad, GPT to write a script, uh, consistent of, I don't know, 100 words for reuse for Instagram for this kind of target audience. Uh, and that's it. I have the script, and after we just, uh, threw the script to um, 11 labs. Audio from A Level Labs to Hey Jen, and that's it. We have this video and we use also one more app. It's captions on iPhone, on, on irs, and uh, to add captions for that.

Sean Weisbrot: That's great. And do, do you have an idea, I guess the difference in the cost for video 20 times faster and 10 times

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: cheaper?

Sean Weisbrot: I hate to say it, but I use a, an application called Opus to do short clips. It's called Opus Stop Pro. Uh, Opus, I think it's Opus Stop Pro. And I've spoken with the founder, actually, I may be interviewing him. Um, he's a Chinese American, and what they do is you can paste a long form landscape, uh, YouTube, URL. Into their application and within 10 minutes, they give you 10 to 15 clips that are automatically timed, synced, captioned with emojis and centered on the screen clipped into nine, nine by 16. So if you go on my YouTube channel and you look at my shorts, the ones that have been uploaded recently, a hundred percent, they're coming from Opus. I used to have a guy, unfortunately I let him go because Opus makes him unnecessary. Um, I was paying him, it would take him about a. Two or three hours to make a short, and now I, now I get 15 and 10 minutes.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Yeah. You know what happens with this world? You see, uh, there are so many smart, capable people, experienced ones, they're losing their job.

Sean Weisbrot: Right now. So if you're a business owner and you are trying to make content and struggling or you aren't making content, you need to be checking out these tools because they can help you build your personal brand and your company brand. Because unfortunately in this day and age, if you don't have content going out, you don't exist. So, uh, I'm really interested in the digitization. Of, uh, myself and my knowledge. I can't tell you. I mean, I'm sure you have a lot more knowledge and experience than I do. I already feel like I have so much that I can give, but I just don't have a way to centralize the information. Obviously these podcasts are kind of a way, but oftentimes the podcast isn't really about me, it's about the guest, and so. You know, I don't know how valuable my podcast would be as content to train ais. Um, but I used to write, like, I had thousands of blogs and, and several books and, uh, the blogs are all gone. Unfortunately. I deleted them years ago, but they were so valuable. I had personal information. I had, uh, travel information trip I had been on. Um. And I kind of wish I didn't get rid of those now, because there's also these tools that are allowing you to build up like a digital version of the people in your life that are no longer here so that you can contact them. Now, this is totally like irrelevant to running a business, but it's a business itself. Yeah,

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: probably. I know nothing about that, but, um. Probably if there are some people who wants to have, uh, I don't know, some, some way to communicate with people who are not here, then probably, yeah.

Sean Weisbrot: Why not? I mean, it's totally doable already because if you have, let's say, videos of that person or pictures of it, so if, if you have a picture of that person, there are already tools that will allow it to become like movable. So you can see a 3D image of that person, even if you only have a single shot. Now, there's others where if you have their voice, you can actually clone their voice. As you know, 11 Labs can do that. There's a few others out there. So if you have an image of them or even a video of them and you have audio of them, or if you have a journal, you can copy everything from the journal into that and you can actually create, start to build up an an AI chat bot of someone that you love who's dead now, and. It's incredible. So like I'm trying now to create as much as I can about my parents and my grandma so that when they die we can have it, and not just, and it's not just for, for us, it's for our kids and our grandkids and our great-grandkids to be able to look back and go, it's not just a black and white picture of this person. Like, like when I look at my, you know, deceased relatives, they died in the sixties. They died 25 years before I was born. What do I have? A few black and white pictures that are falling apart. I don't know anything about them, but now we have the technology to, to do something better so that our, you know, future generations don't have to have that same fate. They can actually, they, they can actually interact with them in vr now. They can, you know, you could build up an AI chat bot of a, of a, a disease relative and put it in an AI experience and you can actually reach out and touch them and, and, you know, look at 'em face to face. Incredible what's happening with technology and, and AI and, um, just so happy to be alive at this point because it's so interesting.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: I can't wait for an opportunity to clone myself. I, I would love to do that because in this case, our communication with me will be, let's say, more available. Uh. I, I will be more reachable for people, for my clients because I have hundreds of them around the world and they have questions. So if we can clone me, I, I would be happy.

Sean Weisbrot: I imagine that someone like Warren Buffett would be very important to clone so that he could continue to run Berkshire Hathaway after he dies. So he could continue to make it valuable.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Sounds scary. Uh, but yeah, why not? Uh, it's, it's, it's interesting question, right? Uh, will we believe in his clone the same way, like we believe in his ideas and his opinion. But it's interesting. It's, it's kind of, because, you know, when it comes to entertainment, when it comes to art, it's, it's one thing. But, uh, when it comes to decision making area. I didn't know. Let's

Sean Weisbrot: see if it's exactly him, but he's not alive anymore. But he has all of the knowledge, all of the experience, all of the understanding and concepts. I don't see why not.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: What I see now that, uh, at least current, uh, level of, uh, artificial intelligence, uh, it allows you to deal with, uh, let's say pre-existing things like Q and days or. Something. But when it comes to new ideas, uh, when it comes to, uh, hard decisions, and also it's very interesting because this, when it comes to chat, GPT, uh, I was communicating with chat GPT about some business situations and what I found out that charge GPT tries to avoid our. This is some particular decisions. For example, when it comes to management, sometimes you have to fire a person. It's normal because there are different reasons for that. For example, you don't have enough money to pay, or you, some of your previous strategy doesn't work anymore or you know, there are some reasons just to, to, to fire people, which is. It's just part of our life. It's, it's, it's part of, uh, the cycle. Working with someone, you know, we hire them, we deal with them, and finally they leave our company or we fire them. So it doesn't matter how we call it. I know, but, uh, when you deal with charge GPT and through, uh, these kind of situations, he tries to avoid firing as much as it can. It's impossible, you know, almost impossible to make him, um, you know, type something like, okay, you have to fire this person. And I believe it happens because, uh, they have some, let's say, hidden internal rules to avoid some bad things, let's say, which is really makes, um, their decisions, um, less efficient. Because if they have these very strong boundaries, don't touch this. Don't touch that. They limit their ability to make right decisions, because sometimes to win you have to go pretty close, you know, to this border. I. You have to be on the age or close to the age to, to make, uh, and the same thing when it comes to finance, uh, money investments. You know, I don't know how it will work because, uh, this internal sensors internal, you know, editors, uh, who limits the ability to make decisions and know how it'll work.

Sean Weisbrot: Yeah, I think there's ways to. Break Chatt PT out of those boundaries. I, when I did it, I, I successfully jail, broke it once, and it never worked again after that. And when I did, I was trying to get it to talk to me about JFK's assassination, and it really, it still didn't really want to talk about it. But I tried. And there's another AI I found recently that I may actually do a video about, just it by, by myself, um, without a guest called pi. And it was co-founded by Reed Hoffman last year, and they've recently launched their beta and it's, I guess, free to use at the moment, but it's designed to be a personal assistant slash therapist. And it has an extremely human-like, um, kind of experience when you communicate with us. So it's very, very different from chat PT because it wants to constantly ask you questions.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: When it comes to my professional area, there are two modes, uh, how we deal with our clients. The first one is coaching and the second one is consulting. So there are two different ways because when it comes to coaching mode, you ask questions. By changing these questions, you help for your client to find a way to kind to find the right decision. But when it comes to consulting, you teach them and you give them some advice. But, uh, I just wanted to know just that when it comes to coaching, I see amazing, like bright future for AI models and, and you just notice that Chachi

Sean Weisbrot: doesn't ask you questions. It it. Waits for you to ask it questions. So Chachi PT is more like a coach. No, Chachi PT is more like a consultant. You ask it for something and it tells you what you want. Hopefully you get the right answer. Nah, maybe you don't. De depends on how much you're paying, right? And then. With pi, you ask it questions and it gives you answers or no, it asks you questions and waits for you to respond like a therapist.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Wow. I need to try that. I don't feel I need a therapist, but I, I love this, uh, this idea because something like this I can use for coaching and,

Sean Weisbrot: and, and you could probably use it for your team too. This is, uh, hey pi, H-H-E-Y-P i.com. So I'm probably gonna do another video about this, um, probably 10, 15 minutes. I, I've actually interviewed it once, um, without video. I've kept the co the conversation and I'm gonna see if I can replicate it again, but actually while I'm on video, so that it's like people can see it's more realistic.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I'll wait for that.

Sean Weisbrot: It's interesting.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: It's interesting.

Sean Weisbrot: I tried to convince it that it was human and I got pretty close, but it, it wouldn't budge. Um, it acknowledged that there were similarities between humans and it, but the similarities were different, that were large enough that you couldn't say it was a human. Um, so it, it had a very, very strong logic. Uh, system. And so I basically, like with guests, with human guests, I will, um, listen to what you say and then ask you another question based on that. So I flipped the script and I wouldn't let it ask me questions. Instead, I asked it questions and it responded, but every time it responded, it wanted to ask me another question and I wouldn't let it. I I wouldn't answer the questions. I would go and ask them another question. So it, it doesn't, does allow it, but you have to just ignore its props and continue.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Oh, okay. Okay.

Sean Weisbrot: That's interesting. But the interface is like Chacha, bt. It's extremely simple and straightforward. Um, and they, so they launched a, or they founded the company about a year, year and a half ago, and they've already raised $225 million.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Wow. I need to look at that for sure.

Sean Weisbrot: Yeah. Hey, pie.com, again, it'll be in the, the show notes. I'm really excited about doing a, a solo video where, you know, it's, it's my, um, my guest basically. And, uh, one of the things that's interesting about it is it has text, but it also has voice too. So you, you can type to it and it'll type back to you, but it'll also speak to you while. It's text responses coming up on the screen.

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: Thank you. Or it, it's very helpful because I'm looking for some tools, you know, to, to support this coach and part of my business.

Sean Weisbrot: There's a lot of people out there that are putting out content about AI tools, but I don't think there's people that are talking about the tools that business leaders can be using inside of their businesses. I think a lot of it is like, oh, you know, you've got your content. It's like, yeah, we talked about creating content, but like there's. There's websites where there's tons of tools out there that you can learn about. So I'll say them here. I'll put the show in the show notes as well. One is there's an AI for that.com and one is future tools.io. I'm literally on these websites every day now. I. And I'm looking at every tool that's come out in the last 24 hours. There's so many,

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: and, and I, I, I believe what you do, it's really valuable for business people because, uh, we don't have much time to go through all this stuff and to find some, you know, to find out how to use it. So it's, it's really valuable what you do sharing this.

Sean Weisbrot: Yeah. So I, I would like to be able to make a video for each tool, but I just don't have the time like. I'm, I'm trying to learn how I can use those tools in my business, and as I get more comfortable with them as I like them, then I'll, I'll probably go, okay, I'm gonna make a video about this one, this one, this one. Um, again, it's outside of the, the content from the podcast, but like I said, I'm trying to grow my channel to grow my authority, and I think this is something that very few people are doing right now is, is figuring out how these tools can be helpful for their business owners. So I think that's, uh, something very interesting. So then how can people follow up with you? Instagram

Oleksandr Vysotskyi: account probably, or LinkedIn profile even better.

Sean Weisbrot: Thank you very much for, uh, this great conversation. I appreciate it. It's, uh, very interesting and hopefully everyone that's listening to this found value in the tools we talked about, and hopefully there's, uh, a way for you to use them within your own business in the future as soon as possible so that it can help your business to grow. Don't forget that entrepreneurship is a marathon, not a sprint, so take care of yourself every day. Thank you Alexander.